Why I’m NOT deleting my Klout profile

by Fadra Nally on November 22, 2011

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If Klout is a dead horse, I’m going to beat it. I don’t usually like to write about social media topics that have been covered by virtually everyone in the social media and blogging space but since my opinions seems to go against grain, I thought I might share.

I read a couple of good posts from people who decided to delete their Klout profiles. Apparently it wasn’t an easy process and their arguments are valid.

Pam Moore wrote her post “Why I Deleted My Klout Profile” on SocialMediaToday giving her reasoning in 8 succinctly stated points. I don’t disagree with her. She’s in a position where she is looked at as an expert on social media strategies. For a product that is still in beta and has committed so many egregious errors, she simply can’t endorse Klout right now to her clients and therefore decided to bow out herself.

Fellow blogger, Kelly Whalen of The Centsible Life also took a stand in her post “What the Klout? Why I deleted my Klout Account.” Her reasons were primarily personal. As a mother of 4 children, she takes online privacy very seriously. For that reason, I applaud her.

I’m not here to contradict anything that so many intelligent people out there have written about. And I’m certainly not in a position to tell you what to do with your Klout score. I’m here to tell you why my Klout profile isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

1. I read Klout’s blog.

I never read it before two weeks ago. Frankly, I didn’t care. I signed up because it was a measurement that people were talking about and using and I wanted to be able to “report in” if necessary.

But after all the controversy erupted, I decided to read a little more about the vision behind Klout. I read founder Joe Fernandez’s post on exactly that:

“I get why Klout can rub people the wrong way. We are putting scores next to people and that can be initially off-putting. If you met anyone from the Klout team my hope would be for you to see that we are not elitist jerks but just a bunch of data nerds passionate about understanding the impact of every person online. We believe that every person who creates content online has influence on some topic, to some group of people. We want to help every person maximize their reach and influence and to be recognized for the impact they have.”

This resonated with me. I think they have the right vision. They just probably got lost somewhere along the way with strategy and execution. And the comment about being a data nerd? That just spoke to my heart.

2. I used to work in software.

I understand what it means to be in beta. Yes, it’s been a long beta process so far but keep in mind that Gmail was in beta for 5 years. In my opinion, a long period of beta sort of defeats the purpose. Regardless, beta is meant to signify that the product isn’t final. It’s being tested and tweaked and still evolving.

Behind the scenes, there are software bugs being discovered every day. Often really BIG software bugs that we’ll never know about. But I guarantee, when the big are discovered and especially if they go public, probably no one there is getting any sleep.

 

See that little word "beta"?

3. I might be a data nerd too.

As for working with data, It’s a very complicated issue. I worked on a successful Customer Relationship Management (CRM) system for many years and worked with very sensitive data. Private data. But the reality is that while developing our software, we worked with a test database full of very limited data. It wasn’t until we installed our software at major corporations using terabytes of their data, real data, that we found some major issues.

Recently controversy erupted when it was somewhat revealed that while Klout allows you to link up many of your social profiles, it only actually uses a handful to determine your score. They responded by saying having access to the data allows them to create the models to properly weigh and score those profiles as part of your Klout score.

As a data nerd, I totally buy that but agree that it’s something that Klout should have been more transparent with. Sometimes there is a fine line between proprietary information and full disclosure and I suspect Klout has learned their lesson.

4. I love analytics.

As I mentioned in my previous post, there are 4 primary tools I use for web analytics. I don’t necessarily need all of them but I could spend hours looking at the data. It’s fascinating to me. And that doesn’t even include the tools I use for Facebook or Twitter.

Klout is just another tool. Another subjective analytical tool like any other tool I use to measure my stats. I guarantee on any given day, I will never get the same numbers from different web analytics programs. They all have their proprietary ways of tracking data. And I accept that.

While I may not always agree with how Klout is presenting my data (publicly, I might add), I do love to look at it simply as a gauge of what’s going on with my account primarily in the Twitterverse.

5. My self-esteem is pretty good.

I’ve never been one of those to “work on” my Klout score. I check it. I get excited when it goes a little higher. It’s a nice surprise. I love seeing who gives me a +K. For me, I have no interest in how that affects my score. I simply like seeing my online friends express their confidence and respect in me for various topics. It lets me know I’m getting the job done.

My morning Klout surprise

 

6. I don’t need Klout Perks.

Oh sure, perks are nice. I really enjoyed my perk promoting the movie Tangled, where I got a little stuffed Pascal and a CD of the soundtrack. I also received a blanket and an iTunes gift card. I’m not in it for the perks. Frankly, I think their perks program has a long way to go to really be of value to both Klout users and prospective Klout clients.

However, if anyone has a success story with Secret Clinical Strength deodorant or Axe hair gel, I’d love to hear it.

 

I'll admit that I wanted this one

7. Some people care about the number.

This is perhaps the biggest reason I’m keeping my account. I’m not on a mission to educate everyone out there as to the value of numbers, and which are more important than others. I get asked on a frequent basis what my pageviews are, unique pageviews, unique visitors, impressions, traffic, Facebook friends, Facebook fans, Twitter followers, and yes, even my Klout score.

Most of the time, there is no room to say “My score is 58 however…” You don’t get to explain that you were sick for a week and your number are down. You don’t get to say that you were having issues with Google Analytics. You don’t get to say that your Facebook account is private and that your fans are what count in terms of PR.

You just give a number and I want to be able to have one to give. It always looks better than N/A.

The brightest and the best out there look at your numbers but they also look at you and what you are doing. They look at how you interact with your readers and fans and followers. They assess your ability to engage.

I like Klout because, out of all the tools out there, it does have a component of reach and engagement. It’s far from perfect and I’m far from complimentary but I signed up for beta and I’m willing to stick it out.

  • http://www.thecentsiblelife.com/ Kelly Whalen

    Great post, Fadra. Obviously I don’t agree personally but I know many people feel similarly to you.  They are either waiting to see, or enjoy using Klout still, though I think some must look at it as a necessary evil.

    I have been a big proponent of Klout from the get-go. I read their blog, I’ve emailed with the CEO before, and have encouraged people to sign up in the past. I understand they are in beta, and rode along with the waves of changes, but I feel like there are too many signs pointing to the fact that they are making mistakes-big ones, and in turn they are alienating previously vocal and active users (like me). 

    The shift for me wasn’t just about privacy (though that is a big concern for my family and friends who are on Facebook and linked to my very public account), it was also about the many other issues I’ve encountered. 
    As someone who does blogger outreach I have used Klout along with other tools to have something to share with my clients, but the truth is I know who is a good fit despite any number you can give me (pageviews, Klout, Alexa or otherwise). Klout to me seems very much like Alexa-you can find ways to ‘game’ their system, and if Annie’s recent post is any indicator anyone with a substantial following that isn’t ahem rabid tween fans (see Justin Bieber) will likely having a middling Klout score because engagement is lower the higher number of followers you have. (see: http://phdinparenting.posterous.com/klout-algorithm-what-changed) Problematic when you consider how many spam accounts, and inactive ‘lurkers’ there are that follow people on social networks. All that said (geez, I could have written another post!), I hope that Klout sorts out these issues.

    • Anonymous

      Since I’ve written this post, my Klout score has had 2 significant jumps, one of which was attributed to a change in linking Facebook data. It makes you question if they fixed a bug or changed the way they score. I think a big issue is the transparency (or lack thereof) is missing. There is a difference between a proprietary algorithm and lack of disclosure as to generally how a score is calculated.

      Luckily, I’ve only been asked for my score twice and I have no idea the impact it had!

  • Anonymous

    Glad I’m not the only one who will be sticking around Klout … for now, anyway. I just try not to take it too seriously. It’s just a number. Every once in a while I can get a fun perk from it. And it’s fun to give people +K about topics.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly! There is some fun in it even if we still have no idea what those +Ks are for!

  • Jessica Cohen

    This is a great perspective, Fadra. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It’s an interesting topic for sure that Klout!

    • Anonymous

      Love it or hate it, they sure are getting a lot of press!

  • Tina @ Life Without Pink

    This is a great post! I’m sticking around for a little longer too…we’ll see what happens!

    • Anonymous

      Since I’ve written this post, my score has gone up significantly, twice!

  • http://www.thedailyblarg.com Stephanie

    Great take on the subject.  I still am on the fence about Klout… but I do admit to checking my score frequently.  Maybe I am not as on the fence as I think.  LOL

    • Anonymous

      If you check it, you care. And by care, I mean, you want to know what your score is, whether you agree with how valid it is or not. 

  • http://reallywhatwerewethinking.blogspot.com Dana K

    I unlinked all of my profiles except for my twitter profile. I didn’t like the fact that a connection to me caused a Klout profile to be created FOR MY MOM! I set up her FB account & update her privacy settings each time FB changes them. Friends have had their kids end up with public Klout profiles. That really disturbs me. I am leaning heavily towards deleting my profile. I don’t monetize my blog, so it serves no purpose to me on that front and the perks aren’t really perks yet.

    • Anonymous

      I think you make a great argument FOR deleting your Klout profile. If you don’t care about the data or the numbers and you don’t agree with their policies (privacy being the biggest one), I support your decision.

  • http://twitter.com/AndreaUpdyke Andrea(LilKidThings)

    Yes, this is how I feel as well. I know it’s not perfect, but I feel like I would rather have SOME number than no number since more and more people seem to be asking for it.

    • Anonymous

      Same here. I’d rather have a number than write n/a.

  • http://sunshinewonderland.com Megan

    I just requested mine deleted. I realized that even though it was an extra line to fill out with PR information, I didn’t really use it. I wasn’t really getting perks and they were giving me topics didn’t ever talk about or associate with at all. AND the privacy issue.

    It just wasn’t a reflection of me, and I’d rather have no Klout score than one that I don’t feel reflects me at all.
    I hope your perseverance in supporting it pays off.

    • Anonymous

      Good for you for making a decision. I can completely understand on the privacy issue alone!

  • Anonymous

    I’m totally keeping mine because I get so much amusement from the topics. This week I am influential about Phillipines. I have had one conversation about Phillipino colleges with one person on twitter one evening and apparently that makes me an influential person on the Phillipines.

    I can’t tell you how much that made me laugh.

    For the entertainment factor alone, I love klout.

    • Anonymous

      I just checked mine and the only thing remotely interesting for me is that I’m influential in shoes. One time, it was earthquakes. That was something to be proud of!

  • Anonymous

    I’m sticking around with klout because the topics actually are things i talk about even if they aren’t “important” Batman and vodka are a reflection of who i am. I also am in it for the perks since i’ve qualified for many. Some good, some bad but its always interesting to see what shows up in the mail. 

    • Anonymous

      If I were influential in Batman and vodka, I’d be a LOT more interested in the perks!

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  • Broot Floondragon

    I removed myself from Klout. One of the many reasons was because I don’t qualify for any perks!! They’re all US based and I’m not in the US. Another reason was because they decided I was influential in “Klout.” um, wut?  There were more reasons than that but those are the main two. :)

    • Anonymous

      So no respect or benefit for you. But how can you remove yourself from the very thing you are influential in?!?!? Actually, it makes total sense.

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  • http://www.thingsicantsay.com shellthings

    I’m keeping mine- I might not agree with the number and think it’s sort of silly, but I want a number instead of “-” which is what shows for people who have deleted their accounts. Otherwise, I feel like I’d need to waste space explaining why I deleted my account. To me, it’s a lot like google page rank- where we might not all agree with the number, especially when we look at certain people and wonder why they have the score they do… but it’s a measurement tool. 

    Um, the Secret deodorant? Can I confess that I squealed a little at that perk? B/c that is what I use anyway, so it was nice to get it for free. 

    • Anonymous

      I agree with exactly what you said. And now I wished I had paid more attention to the deodorant perk.

  • http://twitter.com/JenniferLSpies Jennifer Spies

    I too am not deleting my Klout account, mainly because I see it as an analytics tool.  I use several different sites to track my online presence, Klout is just one of them and it helps to get a picture of how I am doing across the board.

    The perks program needs some improvement, including from the client end.  I’ve been eligible for perks that hold no interest for me and that, if the company was using a metric beyond score of X+ or influential in social media, I would not have been eligible for.

    Regarding the Axe hair gel, that was one of the perks I had no interest in.  I still got it for my brother, who at the time would have used the sample.  By the time it came, he’d already cut his hair too short to use it himself.  I think he ended up giving his dog a mohawk with it out of boredome.

    • Anonymous

      Great story about a perk fail. I checked mine just the other day because it alerted me that I had was eligible for a perk. When I clicked through, it said, “Sorry, you aren’t eligible for this perk.” I was so mad. I don’t focus much on the perks but I’d like to see a lot of improvements in that department.

  • http://twitter.com/susanborst susan borst

    Interesting post, Fadra, thank you. In looking at your Klout score today, it appear that it was this very post that moved you overnight from 57.49 to a 58.88 with subsequent gains to your current 63.04.  That’s fantastic! Can you provide more insight into number of retweets and who the retweets were from to cause such bumps, including notable activity leading to bumps on 12/2 and 12/4?  Was it sheer volume of RTs or did you capture attention of some heavy hitters? Were they people you followed/were following you – or people totally outside of your “network”
    ?I use a number of tools to understand my “influence” in social media.  On a day-to-day- basis, most make “sense” to me relative to my “engagement” on the networks I am connected to.  Since the Klout “change”, I can not say the same for Klout — and, rather, I find it baffling. - In looking at your score prior to this post, I notice you had consistent daily minor score drops over a period of two weeks (11/7 @ 58.32 – 11/21 @ 57.49 .) I, along with many of my friends, are finding this to be a common score trend. Did this baffle you at all or did drops make sense based on your activity/engagement?  Look forward to your perspective.  Thanks, again.  

    • Anonymous

      Susan – this is a really complicated issue for me. I usually amplify this post on Twitter under my corresponding account @SocialDialect. However, I personally retweet the post from my personal account @allthingsfadra:disqus which is where I do most of my tweeting.

      I’m also part of a Social Media tribe on Triberr where these posts are also linked to my @allthingsfadra:twitter account (even though they come from my Social Dialect RSS feed). In that group, we have a small but select group of Social Media influencers who tweet the articles to their following. Ultimately, I still think it comes down to writing about a topic that resonates with the audience it’s being amplified to.
      These days, the only thing I see that significantly changes my Klout score is waking up in the morning and seeing that Klout has changed yet again.

  • http://www.liveandlovework.com Chrysta Bairre

    Thanks for sharing your perspective on Klout- I really enjoyed reading this! After reading all the hubbub about Klout I have been tempted to delete my Klout account and have held out so far.

    I have been sitting with the idea that most experiences in life are neutral and it is only our perception of them that is positive or negative and perhaps this is where I sit with Klout. I don’t believe it’s harming me to keep my Klout account active, and perhaps it could benefit me as Klout improves it’s policies & metrics. I don’t really have to do anything with Klout so it’s not a drain on my resources. It simply is.

    I would love to see my profile reflect my influence more accurately (Klout previously listed me as influencial in topics I’ve never mentioned, or mentioned just once). To this end I appreciate that I can delete topics & now add topics to my own profile. (Though I have noticed the new topic doesn’t last if I don’t receive +Ks on that topic and/or Klout doesn’t independently verify I am influencial in the topic I added. And I suppose that makes sense.)

    Thanks again for giving me some more food for thought about Klout!

    Chrysta

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